Our New Haunt Hottie: Jackie

[Slain]

Hottie my take

Shane,
I agree that this girl is hot! Great pics I wished they'd shoot a slasher video and show some more skin!!
However I don't see this being in our haunt for the simple reason that we'd never get anyone out of there.. This past season we had a girl in a nurses outfit kind of messed up like the hottie pic but more nursey..Most of the guys going buy were a little freaked out but the closer she got to them the hotter she looked especially on those colder nights..
I think that it is more of a distraction that effective for us perverts of the world...Maybe that is their way of scaring people....I do like it though...

[graystone]

Finally Another Lady Stands Up

[ Lastly, I applaud Mr. Johnson's decision to look at the entire package when choosing this years RFR hottie representative. Yes, she is beautiful, but she is also an amazing actress and the photos taken clearly illustrate that ability. I hope this trend continues when choosing future RFR hotties.[/QUOTE]

Here Ye, Hear Ye Beth well said!!! Hey are you hot too? Post a picture maybe Dark will lighten up. LMAO! Shane and its want my digets? Shane this time.

[Boo Crew Production]

Where in all these postings does it say that she IS in a sexy costume when in the haunts she works at? Or when she does make-up?

Here is a pic of Jackie at one of the haunts she has acted at.

Nothing sexy about this character.

In a haunted attraction don't we encourage actor's and actress's to create multiple characters? This is one of her many characters. She is also currently creating more characters, yes some sexy to get attention and to promote the haunt she works at. isn't attention what we attempt to get to promote our goods or services, to stand out, to be different.

I do not see this as selling sex, why? I see VERY little skin as opposed to things you see on TV. These photos are in good taste.

[Darkangel]

She looks great, like a real haunt actress and she looks scary. Why couldn't this pic be used?



Darkangel

[Jonathan]

I will say. YES, my wife knows about the models and is fine with it.

One, she understand business. Two, she is secure knowing I am hers. Three, it is no different than my day job doing photo shoots for Advertising and Design.

[Slain]

Elvira was at our place (Atrox Factory) opening weekend..
She looks 40 but she's really 56. She is a hottie for sure. She exploits her breast, legs, and butt but in a good way.. Very classy lady. The girl in the photo this thread is hot but not Elvira hot. She just happens to work at a haunted house and has a nice look to her..I think being in a haunt dressed like this does'nt scare me but really gets my juices flowing if you know what I mean...

Elvira was very involved in the haunt industry, in fact 6-flags used her every Halloween when they put on their Haunt. She was featured in several attractions through out the years. I suppose I am telling my age here but many women dressed as Elvira during the Halloween season. However, most were not as well endowed.

[xxxdirk]

I REALLY can not figure out what has you guys undies in a bundle. I mean SERIOUSLY. Go back and look at the pic. Yes, there is SOME skin showing, her arms and some of her chest area. There is a hint of cleavage, but its not like her boobs are hanging out or her nips are showing. You can barely make out the shape of the breast. I have seen much more skin walking around downtown in the Summer. I have also seen MUCH more skin showen at most of the haunts I have visited over the past 5 years. As Jolly Pumkin said, this thread is so messed up it's not even funny. You go through a haunt and there are movie quality props of severed heads, or brains or mutilated body parts, or recreate the scene from the EXORCIST and no one blinks or says anything. You put up a post with a pretty girl showing some skin and people freak out. What do you guys want, to have every inch of skin covered? Maybe those of you that are so offended can create a haunt with every scene pitch black as not to offend, or maybe have the girls all wear the full body black things that they make some women wear in some places in the middle east!!

[Jim Warfield]

Not Getting Much Done?

How much time do you spend in sexual fantasyland? (and what have you got to show for it?)

People would be amazed at all the long hours of work I have commited to this property over these last 21 years but going back, looking at my entire life, I could have built quite a few haunted houses for all the time lost thinking and needlessly pursuing those other fanciful yearnings.
Shake it off, get back to werq.

[SomeThingInTheIce]

Man, 6 pages of this! YOU GO GIRL!

[Barry]

Man, 6 pages of this! YOU GO GIRL!

LOL!! I was thinking the same thing and the only reason I read all of them is because Jackie is a very good friend of mine.

As has already been pointed out, you all are talking about different things. Promoting RFR vs promoting a haunt. I don't have a problem doing it in either if that is what works. Personally I think this thread is a perfect example that it does. Look at all of the pub that JJ has gotten! LOL

[Tater]

All im saying is if you dont know the girl then stop throwing insults around like you do...in other words shut the hell up if you dont know her

[OdetteDespairr]

Wow did not think that this was going to happen lol

First of all im going to start out by saying I Love My Friends LOL thank you and you know whom you are

Secondly im going to say that some of you know me but not by Jackie, I usually go by OdetteDespairr or Justcallmelafeeverte just to clarify who i am lol

Third im going to say to Something In The Ice that i didnt even know this was all going on till Tater called me and told me LOL

Ok so wow where to start, thank you to JJ for everything im so happy to be in this position and hope to use it to its full advantage, and hopefully bring more women into a more prominent position in the industry, being the RFR hottie to me meens that even tho i can be pretty i am still a very very good actress, it meens that i can open up oppertunities for women in a highly male dominated industry, im hoping girls who take a backseat to men each season will see me and go "Hey, you know what, if she can do that so can I".

Onto what you think of my photos...if you like them...then thank you im glad you enjoyed them, they were alot of fun to do (oh and by the way the whole shoot was planned and designed by me, from theme to costumes to makeup to lighting and set, so i do do more than just stand in front of the camera and try to look pretty thanks) and im glad that they caught your attention and brought some more notice to RFR because helooo...obviously that was the point...to gain more attention for RFR

if you did not like them..then that is your opinion and whatever you feel think and believe i respect that, because i am not in this industry to pick fights, nor do i believe the belittlement of others creative outlets and ideas is tastefull, i am in this industry, to learn, grow, and enjoy it...creative criticism is welcome...but slander and name calling and childish behavior is not

And now onto me...the easiest way to explain me and my place in the industry is to check out the introduce yourself sticky thing because theres a few paragraphs explaing my experience and how i fit into this whole fun haunt industry puzzle

the only things i'll say relating to that are 1. During haunt season if you think im sexy then you have a few bolts loose, i try to steer as far away from sexy as possible and am covered almost completely 2. I am a good actress...come to my haunt and watch me work..better yet ask someone who knows me...or visit one of the haunts that i am scheduled at through out the season...because obivously im good enough to travel

ok now to adress a few fun litte things that were said

Geko..moms like me...for some reason lol

Graystone...funny..no..yes but he only comes out at night...not going...apparantly my clevage is offensive so are you sure?...mebe...mebe next year

LOL

Odette Despairr
AKA Jackie Rotting Flesh Radio's Newest Haunt Hottie

[AnandaHexen]

Whether Jonathon has this is different than whether haunts have it. It doesn't set an image that I necessarily want furthered in this industry, but it doesn't offend me, nor do I see it offending too many other people.



This is a topic upon which, frankly, I think much of the industry needs to think on.

Sex sells? Sure
Is it necessary to a haunt? NO NO NO
Are you wrong to have it in your haunt? No
Does it show immediately if you are doing it blatantly and poorly, merely riding on the mantra sex sells? YES YES YES

If your haunt can't survive without WOMEN dressed in whatever you think is sexy at the moment, then you need to exit this industry.

If your haunt does have WOMEN in sexy "scary" clothes, then please be sure that they can actually carry off what they're wearing. There is nothing wrong with a sexy vampire or occasionally a victim, but it is pathetic when it is more than obvious, even to the customers, that the person who is dressed like that is merely taking an opportunity to wear something that they would never wear in a million years and can't act in it to save their lives. If you have a dominatrix-style character then she'd better be the damn scariest thing around because a WOMAN thrashing a whip and yelling innuendos or random lines is not scary, not even to the customer, and really she probably isn't sexy to the customer either whether her cleavage is busting out or not!!!!


It is totally up to Jonathon to decide whether he wants to be the Hugh Hefner of the haunt industry. If the women, who don't normally allow themselves to be seen in this type of genre want to, then that is their choice and their choice alone. I choose not to and frankly, if I did do it, I'd do my own make-up and costuming so that it looked like the same kind of quality as my own acting and costuming. However, the spectrum of appropriate and inappropriate is endless on both ends in this industry and won't be defined any time soon.

This isn't about whether Jackie is sexy or not in this picture. She dresses well when she acts and her pics show that she acts and costumes herself appropriately for whichever character she is portraying. Her costumes and make-up look good and are something that I think haunts should be teaching their girls and women.

My concern is the example this is setting for those who DON'T look to see how the actresses dress in October. My concern is for the GIRLS who want to dress like that in October, for the GIRLS who want to use the haunt industry as an opportunity to get away with stuff they'd never be able to any other time or anywhere else. That should NOT be what this industry is about.

This is about quality and whether you decide not to pander to the lowest common denominator.

Sex sells, but who decides what is sexy? Even if she is sexy, is she really contributing something SCARY or positive to your show? Did your quality just drop exponentially when you let that little goth girl in the corset and the boots scream in that room for an hour just because she's showing some skin and a few patrons asked for her number? Would you want your daughter/mother/sister doing that act? If she can do it and scare people or at least act well, then let her, but honestly, out of all the women I've seen act since 1993, maybe 3 could carry it off. 3!!!! How many are out there trying it? TOO MANY!!!

You can have the sultry/sexy/scary/whatever in your haunt, but less is more, and at least try to do it well!!

[drfrightner]

The let the product sell itself period end of story. If what you offer isn't good enough sure add some half naked woman to spice it up, and after that don't work go back to square one of making the best product. Again end of story.

If what you sell is porn keep taking it to the next level, have the best porn, blow (whoops I hope that isn't taken out of context LOL) everyone who would compete with you out of the water.

If you sell Playboy find the sexiest woman on the planet and find the best photographers to take those photos. Yes sex does sell and when people want to buy sex they buy it ... you don't walk into a haunt site expecting to find it.

If I want to watch porn I wouldn't expect to find it on a Halloween site that is for sure. I'm not saying this is porn but its a step in that direction for sure.

Look let me say that I don't care what anyone does with their website, but having stuff like this doesn't sell anything, anyone who thinks that is a fool. Try doing something like this and sticking it on your website and use your slogan "SEX SELLS" and lets see how long you last.

Sex does sell in strip clubs, on porn sites, and so on... it doesn't sell your haunted house I can tell you that. The minute you add some half naked woman, and throw that up on your site your business is going down the tubes. I'll bet anyone on that!

Look here is the bottom line...

Most people are total hypocrates they preach against porn but they watch it they buy it, people preach against global warming but run right out and buy hummers, they prosecute the charged without all the facts but when they get in trouble its an unjust. Preists preach GOD while they rape little boys. Look people frown on this stuff, and will talk down on it even if they might secretly like it. You never want the public to turn on you and you do not want to give them any reason to either.

Look I'm just saying and I stick by what I'm saying... there is no place for it and it will turn more people of than help the site. Haunted Houses and or Halloween and stuff like this don't mix and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

We have fought for years to leave behind sterotypes and well this ... okay whatever.

I like Johnathon and think he does a great job but if this is what he thinks will sell his site then in my opinion he doesn't believe in what he's already doing. The same goes for anyone... all those gimick haunts out there like get your money back, or whatever... lets face it your haunt isn't good, otherwise you wouldn't do these gimmicks.

Gimmicks work for so long then people understand yep it was a gimmick, never coming back, then where are you at?

Build the best product, something you believe in, put you heart and soul into it and leave the gimmicks at the door!

I must be honest I don't visit RFR and do not listen to the podcast, and to be honest I don't listen to any podcast. However I took a visit over to the site and looked around, and the site has an edge to it so maybe this goes in line with the goals of the site. I must also admit Jonathan is one hell of a graphic artist...kudos! Anyway I visited several horror movie websites and none of those major sites have anything like this either. I wonder why? Maybe because their focus is reporting HORROR MOVIE NEWS... I don't know. Doesn't really matter because RFR should do what they feel is best for their business, I guess since I didn't visit the website I assumed the focus was haunted news, and didn't see the connection between haunted news and this and still don't. But again just so everyone is CLEAR I could care less what people do with their own personal website, if it works for them that is all that matters.

I personally just don't see the connection between this and haunted houses. Just my opinion!

At my haunted house I don't use sex to sell, I use scary monsters because I thought that is what we sell? Maybe I'm wrong! LOL

Larry

[drfrightner]

The Darkness presents 'Darkness Hottie' of the week (LOL). I'm now a believer and jumping right onto the bandwagon!

Our hottie will not only charm you with good looks but after he'll put an axe through your head and use it in the haunt as a prop!!!!

LOL

Larry