Halloween Remake

[MDKing]

Nightgore, how can you possibly put Zombie in the same group as Peter Jackson? LOTR are some of the best movies ever, my opinion they are the best and millions probably agree. Zombie's movies cater to the lowest common denominator....He'll never join anyone in the list you mentioned if he continues to put out what he has so far....

Allan

[Spookyfinder]

^ Have you seen Peter Jackson's "The Frighteners"... I didn't say anything about LOTR!!! All these directors have something in common that is popular today that the older "classic" directors could never do... CREATE AMAZING VISUALS! -Tyler

[Infoamtek]

But that's just the technology and budget. It has nothing to do with the director. Carpenter did amazing things with lighting, camera angles, music and all done on a shoestring budget.

[Jim Warfield]

If the November weather is decent and or predictable, I can be very busy.
Who comes here in November? People from other haunted houses!
(They sure can't come here in October!)

[Jonathan]

I will say this....if the movie company had faith in the Zombie Halloween it wouldn't have been released on the slowest and worst weekend of the year for films. And thats according to hollywood. Labor Day Weekend is when pretty much nothing comes out. Its a bad release weekend year after year.

They released it that weekend because with nothing else coming out of significance this last weekend, the numbers and number one status looks good on paper ads and commercials.

I feel the film will be in and out of theaters.

[bhays]

Still, hard to argue with the numbers. $31 million, all time labor day weekend box office record, on a $15 million budget...100% profit opening weekend. That's quite a bit better than another little horror movie the studio had no faith in and released on Labor Day weekend in 1999, maybe you've heard of it: "The Sixth Sense".

Most horror flicks fall off rapidly at the box office, then perform well on video release.

Finer points of film making aside, this movie made good money and revived a horror genre that most major studios had written off since Hostel II. Zombie just signed a two film deal with Dimension, so it will be interesting to see if he can draw the same kind of numbers for the next one.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=13&cs=1

Is he in the same league with Peter Jackson and John Carpenter, in my opinion, no. But he's good for the horror and haunted attraction business, and that makes him my favorite director right now

[MDKing]

I've seen The Frightners, but Peter Jackson is not known more for that movie as he is his masterpieces and that's why he is so in demand right now. I highly doubt Zombie will create anything that's widely considered a masterpiece, as he hasn't so far that's for sure.

Also, the fact that it made 30mil+ doesn't mean much. Like Jonathan said it was released on a slow weekend up against nothing great. Maybe when Zombie makes another Halloween, or any movie for that matter, and has his friends and wife act in it yet again everyone then will see that Zombie should stick to making good music and leave the movie making and storytelling to those with more talent...

[lurker]

Bread and Circuses, my friends. Rome is falling.

A little negative classicism as it applies to modern horror films. Although I tend to agree with your view that modern horror has become rather pornographic, I don’t think it is a sign Rome is falling. I just think there is a need for every generation to produce something more vile than the generation before it. It is sort of like an on going gross out contest. Movies, as with other forms of entertainment and art, tend to be filtered by time, so that the true great works remain while every generation’s gross out attempts fall by the way side once their shock value wears off.
I still think there is good stuff being made. The real down side to the profane gross out remakes of previous works is that it takes money away from original projects that could be made by mainstream film companies, but I think that has always been part of Hollywood’s problem. They lack imagination, and the few imaginative projects they manage to come up with, they end up beating into the ground.

[redcrowdesign]

Wow! for what I read in this thread this movie doesn't seem like something I'd like to go to see However, I have read LOTS of harsh reviews for nice movies, I mean, I saw this review about a japanese movie called "Premonition" and I must say: you wouldn't like to go to see it after reading that review. Then, months later, I was done with all the 'big studio' horror movies of my local blockbuster, so I started to rent the independent horror films and small studio movies. I found that one, I watched it and I must say that the reviewer was a complete moron, he got everything backwards and that's why he tought the movie sucked, the reviewer was mexican if you wonder, and for him it was all non-sense just because it was another culture's customs, so different from western civilization. I must say, the movie was very good in all aspects, and I missed it all those days just because I was blinded by a subjective review.
I gonna have to wait to see the movie before knowing if this review was justified or not, altho, I bet this movie will take fricking CENTURIES to get here, to mexico. So... I will be probably commenting it in a year or something LOL.

[geoffgbeck]

Halloween Remake

Is it a masterpiece? No, but here is the most important question you have to ask yourself. Did plopping down $8.00 make you yurn for a feeling of the "good old days" back in 1978 when you were probably like 11 or 12 and the idea of a guy with a knife coming after you (living in the bubble of suburbia) scared the hell out of you? Or, did it make you (now in your 30s-after seeing aliens burst out of stomachs, or even watching HOUSE OF A THOUSAND CORPSES) wish for more violence? The answer to both of the questions if you were hoping to find a true "masterpiece" should be no. The reason is simple, no seguel (or sequel/remake) has ever been considered to be a masterpiece. And, yet we go to these movies anyways because we are desperate for something. Perhaps something that will wow us! But, here is the sad truth. We say "Oh, well, the violence was too much, or, they swore too much, or, it didn't have the same feel as the original." WE ARE HIPPOCRATES! We want our cake and we want to eat it too! The probable reality is that Rob Zombie-who was truly trying to take a classic horror story- and just re-tell it (his way) gets a lot of flack for making a movie (arguably extremely violent) that isn't what the audience expected. What did the audience expect? Rob Zombie has made two of the most successful horror movies of the last 5 years. That is why he was hired to make this movie. And if you or I was given a couple of million dollars we too would make a Halloween movie that pissed of a lot of fans as well. Why? Because you can't please everybody! If this movie was just another Rob Zombie film called SLUTS WHO GIVE BIRTH TO EVIL KNIFE HOLDING DEMON CHILDREN (like something he created for the "trailer" intermission section for GRIND HOUSE) then the public of today would love it. Yes, it would be violent, but it would fit today's marketplace. Again, we the audience are hippocrates because we expected a masterpiece from another installment in a very popular horror franchise, but somehow we hoped it would remind us of when we were twelve and less violent things scared us. Sorry, but that day is gone. We spent $8.00 on a movie that is entertaining (for today's standards). Rather than complain about it, maybe we should just do what WE do best, and go out a scare the hell out of people this season and try to control "our art form." Thanks for listening.

Geoff Beck
Acting/Makeup Coordinator
Morgan Manor, WI

[redcrowdesign]

Dewd, you made an excelent point! I am not even going to discuss that, RESPECT 4 U!