Something else you don't hear about. The Federal Government makes more $$$ per barrel of oil produced in or imported to this country than the oil companies do profitwise. If you want a true-to-life haunt room, make a legislative looking room and fill it full of man-sized bloodsucking leeches.
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First of all, if you tax the oil companies more, they'll just pass it on to us. Believe it or not, oil companies do have expenses, the oil isn't just handed to them by the Saudis. Exploration alone is expensive. I do not defend the oil companies for the gas crisis, but we should've been drilling on and off our own shores for all these years.
Obama will realize, if he wins, that to carry out all the promises he's made during the election, HE WILL RAISE TAXES ON US ALL, except those who don't pay taxes.
Remember the three words he told Joe the Plumber, he will "SPREAD THE WEALTH" which is code word for distribution of money from those of us who work and pay taxes to those who refuse to.
Remember the Carter years, 21% interest, inflation and unemployment through the roof? Much worse than now. Financial institutions are in trouble now in part because congress pressured banks and other loan companies to loan money to those who couldn't afford it.
Look how much worse the economy is and how much higher gas is since the Dems took over the House and Senate. No wonder their ratings worse than Bush, their between 9 - 13%. Obama worries me. But we're all friends and that's only my opinion.Hauntus Emeritus
Founding Board Member I.A.H.A.
Author "The Complete Haunted House Book"
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Originally posted by drfrightner View PostLet me tell you that is a MAJOR ISSUE for me... Gas companies should be taxed with a windfall tax, when you profit exceeds a certain amount they should pay 50% of it in taxes, I'm all for that. This is something the Democrats proposed and Bush vetoed and that really pissed me off.
Gas companies are raping American's no doubt about it... McCain has said flat out he will take on the Gas companies and Palin has already done just that in Alaska. I can only hope they do!
There is a difference though between excess greed and keeping your money that you earned. GM isn't greedy, charging to much for their cars, they can't they have way to much competitions. If you raise taxes on all companies that make more than 250,000.00 well all the major companies in America that employ directly or indirectly will be affected.
Larry
The oil companies rate of return, their profit, is roughly 12%. That is not excessive. It's just that these energy companies are so massively big. You will find that there are all sorts of companies and industries who have profit rates that are highter. Should they all be taxed for "windfall profits"?
I don't work for an oil company or have any association with them, but, I just don't understand how anyone can say the rate of profit is excessive.
Take Exxon. Don't get bamboozled by someone stating they made $40 Billion over the last year. They are a $375 Billion company.
It costs money to drill for this resource, it costs money to buy it from where it is coming, it costs money to ship it, refine it, distribute it and such.
Yes, we're all being hurt at the gas pump, but, it's the Saudi's, Middle East, Russians and Venezuelans controlling the oil supply. They can manipulate the price of a barrel of oil simply by suggesting that they are thinking about cutting their output. Couple that with economies such as China, India and others that have been demanding more oil as well, the price is only going to rise globally.
Simply, absent an alternative, we are at their mercy.
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One Nation under Obama
If Osama Obama wins the Presidential Election, we will enter an age of Socialism in America which, in my opinion, goes against the Constitution of the United States and what it stands for. I didn't realize that working hard, being successful, creating jobs, contributing to the economy, etc. was a punishable offense even though big companies already pay millions (billions in some cases) in tax revenue. What Dumb-O-Crats don't understand is that there is no limit on success, income or profits and taxing big or successful businesses more than they are already taxed reduces their operating capitol, thus reducing the number of employees they can hire, will have to pay lower wages or, if they do hire more people and pay higher wages, that results in the need to charge higher prices which will be the only way to cover those increased costs. With higher prices comes fewer sales which then reduces the company's profitability once again and eventually affects the economy overall. Only those of us who own and operate businesses of any size understand this simple concept.
Steve...Last edited by Uptown Haunts; 10-19-2008, 08:34 AM.
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Gas companies make a few cents off every gallon of gas. If they eliminated their profit altogether and made NO money the rpice wouldn't even drop a quarter. If the government dropped all it's taxes and stupid regulations on gas the price in some areas would drop more than a dollar. The government is much more responsible for the high prices. They made record profits off gas too...just nobody called them on it.
I don't mind paying my fair share of taxes...but Obama wants to be Robin Hood and steal from the rich to give to the poor. That's not the American way. It's not fair to punish success. Businesses can't grow when the government taxes them into the ground.
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I Don't Believe This!
Yeah lets just tax them right out of business, send every job overseas...that is a great idea!
Larry
That is from Larry's post.
This statement is what Bush has done in the last 8 years and McCain supports this. I don't trust either of the canidates. It's like voting for bad or worse.
Isn't there a web sight where this is discussed besides here?
I come on a Haunt sight and discuss politcs! I can't believe this!
Oh' I too am affraid to speak up on this board, I was bashed a few years ago because I stated my opinion.
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::clap clap:: Haunted phantom, I totally agree.
You deserve a standing ovation.
What about the families who are making roughly $40,000 per year and struggling just to survive? Do you not give a crap about them because, seemingly, you're not one of them?
Let me tell you - I AM one of those. And I work my ass off 12 hours a day, six days a week to support my family. We are unable to set up college accounts for our kids. We are unable to keep a savings with three months worth of emergency money. Is it because we live outside our means? No. And we fear for our jobs every day, and health insurance rates. We couldn't surviive if we were taxed any more.~"Who died and made you f*cking king of the zombies?"
~"Bill, get your own funeral. Timmy and I are going zombie."
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Opinions AND Facts
Which are the more "dangerous"?
Opinions usually can move a crowd to action whether it be rioting or voting but I think the majority of people who live in this country don't need to simply decide anymore with only opinions because facts speak louder for anyone below J. McCain's median income level of $5million dollars a year.
Remember he said if you don't make at least that paultry 5 mill. a year then you are just middle class. These are his constituantcy and that ain't the majority of us or the people,that I know or have ever known.
It becomes an "Us versus Them" when they ride roughshod over pensions, and they become shinning examples of ultimate greedy oinkers ever known.
What is it? 3% of the people here own 95% of the value of this country?
I guess this sounds all "right" and good if you like medieval fairy tales where the King is always right...because he is the king.
How many generations of worker ants will shrivel and die waiting for the King to drop some crumbs from the corner of their mouth?
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Obama all the way (at this moment) I really dont give a shit about big business most of the time they would get ride of joe smoe to make room for there budget(keep in mind the person lost there job after 20 years of service) Legal crooks is big business and i say after years apon years we need a change!!! To be honest how could it get any worse............
Jason Blaszczak
p.s I am not saying Obama is the answer BUT i am willing to risk it all!!!
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Hey I got this email a while ago I think you all should check it out
vvvvvvvvv
Another Obama thing, but questions raised in the text below have been in my mind
all along since Obama came 'out of nowhere' and thinks he is going to bring 'change'!
Subject: Fw: Author unknown
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a
year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times
since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I
must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/> MSNBC, CNN, and <http://www.foxnews.com/>
Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months
ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have
four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was
tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student
loans.
I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is
very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs
and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not
apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life)
during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid
Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year
in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother
in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan
where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his
father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this
trip?
Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip
like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school
at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone
to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia?
It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition?
Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a
Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New
York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a
real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and
bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the
Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years
later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what
tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School?
More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko
offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis,
Miner,
Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's
firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors
when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser
for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was
instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate
race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago
for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans -
Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's
wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London
Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko
$3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met
Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele
Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make
any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born?
Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past
week,buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that
during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the
war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign
contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and
middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George
Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim
faith'. When questioned, 'he make a mistake'. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it -
Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett:
DailyTimes - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times -
September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own,
Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting
this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from
within'!!!HHA Member
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Originally posted by Mike Honcho View PostHey I got this email a while ago I think you all should check it out
vvvvvvvvv
Another Obama thing, but questions raised in the text below have been in my mind
all along since Obama came 'out of nowhere' and thinks he is going to bring 'change'!
Subject: Fw: Author unknown
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a
year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times
since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I
must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/> MSNBC, CNN, and <http://www.foxnews.com/>
Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months
ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have
four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was
tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student
loans.
I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is
very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs
and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not
apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life)
during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid
Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year
in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother
in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan
where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his
father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this
trip?
Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip
like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school
at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone
to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia?
It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition?
Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a
Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New
York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a
real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and
bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the
Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years
later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what
tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School?
More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko
offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis,
Miner,
Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's
firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors
when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser
for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was
instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate
race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago
for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans -
Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's
wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London
Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko
$3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met
Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele
Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make
any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born?
Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past
week,buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that
during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the
war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign
contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and
middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George
Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim
faith'. When questioned, 'he make a mistake'. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it -
Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett:
DailyTimes - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times -
September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own,
Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting
this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from
within'!!!
Bah, humbug, I say.
If you want to talk politicians with ties to the middle east, look at the people running our government right now.
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Politics and Business
Having grown up in a prominent political family in which our primary sources of income were several family-owned businesses over the years as well as several of my own businesses, my first hand experience in business and politics has helped to shape my opinions, views and expertise in various areas. This has been my environment since I was 3 weeks old. Today is my 50th birthday.
Owning/operating a business has it's ups and downs for many reasons. There's the financial obligations, making sure you've got the cash flow to support these ongoing expenses which include rent/mortgage, utilities, insurance, operating supplies, payroll and benefits if you offer them which we always did, taxes, etc. It takes a while just to break even. Hopefully, there will be a little something left over so you, the business owner/operator, can take a pay check home since that's the main reason why businesses exist in the first place. Financial gain in one form or another for those of us who have made the investment.
As for politics, I grew up in a Republican household. Even though I've never had the urge to seek public office, I've been bashed and slandered in the media by the Left Wingers just because of my accidental relationship to my parents who have both held various public offices from 1964 to the present. I got over feeling insulted with the name calling when I was 7 years old. Instead of crying the blues, I just return the favor now.
If saying bad things about others is only done to make one feel better about themselves, Dumb-O-Crats must be the most miserable people on the planet. Look at how much they whine, cry, complain, blame, etc. It never ends. I don't know what they're gonna do once Bush leaves office in January. But we're getting off of the subject....
Higher taxes will hurt most of our businesses. Based on the Federal income tax structure, the more you make, the more they take. Once you reach a certain gross income, you pay a certain percentage of that figure. Bump up the gross to the next level and you pay a higher percentage which never made any sense to me. 10% of $10,000 is $1,000 and 10% of $100,000 is $10,000. The person with the $100,000 gross income is already paying $9,000 more than the person earning $10,000 if that's the way our income tax structure worked. But it doesn't. The person grossing $100,000 is probably paying about 30% which comes to $30,000 off their gross income. If the income goes up, so too does the percentage paid in. This extra $20,000 could've been used for any number of things. Buying products and services that help the economy, college tuition for one of the kids, upgraded equipment for the business, benefits for a couple of employees (or yourself) or it could even help secure a better location if you're leasing space for your haunt.
Osama Obama's gonna kill us.
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It's just a 4% increase...
Pennsylvania sales tax is 6%. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh added another 1% to the sales tax figure. What does that mean to those of us who spend money in Pa? Here's an example....
If you buy a used car @ $10,000, you have to add 6% ($600) Pa. sales tax or 7 % ($700) sales tax in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Increase the sales tax by another 4% (it now becomes 10%) and these sales tax numbers become $1,000 and $1,100 respectively. Double these numbers for a $20,000 vehicle. The sales tax is now $2,000 and $2,200 respectively. Delaware has no sales tax. Think of the savings. Who feels Delaware should have a sales tax and why?
What are business owners paying in taxes if they are already earning $250,000 in profits per year? What's another 4% on their $250,000 profits? It's another $10,000 over whatever they're already paying in taxes. The same amount of money that was used to buy that first used car (minus sales tax unless you're in Delaware) I mentioned earlier. Regardless of our gross incomes, what would an extra $10,000 mean for your business?
For those who don't have a problem with extorting "just 4% more" from businesses, it must be nice to be independently wealthy unlike the rest of us who actually have to work for a living. I don't earn anywhere near $250,000/year. Not being a parasite, I feel that successful business operators deserve to keep whatever they can (legally) because they already pay more than enough in taxes and they're the ones who made the investment of time, money, effort, planning, developing the ideas, pursued their dream and create jobs which usually has a positive affect on any economy. Bottom line; America is supposed to be the "Land of Opportunity". For some strange reason, there are those who want to destroy the American Dream or prevent it from happening and then cry, whine and complain about how bad things are when there's a Republican in the oral office (thanks, Bill).
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