Darkangel,
Detroit always gets a bad wrap in the media. Have you ever visited Detroit? True that the inner city has a high poverty level and crime rate to go along with it. But I am not suggesting you visit the inner city neighborhoods. The downtown area has been built up over the last few years. Lets see, we have hosted the MLB All Star game and the Superbowl. We host the largest international Auto Show in the world. We host several huge tattoo conventions as well as comic conventions. We have 4 pro sports teams which have won several championships over the last dozen years. We have the largest fireworks celebration and festival in the country.
By the way, politicians everywhere are crooked. We ousted the former Mayor and he went to jail. We have a new temporary mayor and will soon be electing a new mayor. Probably, Dave Bing who was an all star Detroit Piston in the day and a pillar of the community.
By the way, according to the 2007 FBI crime rate statistics, Detroit is not even close to worst crime rate anymore. St louis has less than half the population of Detroit. Here are some numbers for you. Violent crimes Detroit 2,289 - St Louis 2,198, Murder or Manslaughter Detroit 46 - St Louis 40, Rape Detroit 40 - St Louis 73, Robbery Detroit 764 - St Louis 793, Aggravated Assault Detroit 1,440 - St Louis 1,292, Property Crime Detroit 6,772 - St Louis 9,736, Burglary Detroit 2,064 - St Louis 2,093, Larceny Theft Detroit 2,430 - St Louis 5,839, Motor Vehicle Theft Detroit 2,278 - St Louis 1,804 & Arson Detroit 88 - St Louis 118. These are the most recent official numbers released. Hmm it seems that St Louis ranks worst in most categories .
It does not have to be in the city of Detroit either. There are many convention centers in the suburbs.
By the way, my haunted house is in Warren Michigan. 1 block North of Detroit. In seven years of operation, we have never had any major security problem.
I am so sick of people bashing Detroit because of the way the media portrays it. The fact is that the Detroit area is a great place to be. Tons of stuff to do. Great hard working people. I would not want to live anywhere else!
Howie
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If Transworld moved out to California or Vegas again. I probably would never go. It's way to far. Keep it in St. Louis or Chicago. Also Howie is right about Michigan. If it where ever to come here one year. There are a couple haunts that I'm sure would open up for everyone. I think Michigan has close to 50 haunts now in the metro Detroit area? Everyone hears Detroit and thinks of bad things and it's all ghetto. Yes some parts are ghetto but there are a lot of really nice parts to visit. Including cool places in the outer suburbs as well. But I don't care where it is, as long as it stays in the mid center of the states.
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Come on Howie!!!Detroit has got to be the worst city in America. Not trying to offend, but Detroit's repuatation is unbearably bad. Bad politics like mayors, pot holes everywhere, no jobs, high crime, poverty, etc...I know every city deals with these problems but Detroit always ranks near the top in all those things...I'm sure there are many bright spots but I doubt the convention circuit looks deeply into Detroit, I could be wrong?
Darkangel
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Personally I hope it stays in St. Louis but eventually It will probably go back to Chicago. But if it does its gonna have to been in mid or late March so the weather is a bit better if possible. But time will tell. Personally I think it will probably be better in Chicago if they dont bring the whole show to St. Louis. Just my two cents.
Damon
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Gary, I think you're on to something! Hawaii! Now that would be just freakin awesome! Ghouls take over the island! LOL We just need to locate some sweat-proof and water-resistant makeup, wait Bloody Mary already has it! We're set! Now I need to come up with a costume that won't clash with a coconut drink! :grin:
Kel
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So far the best arguement I've heard towards keeping it in St. Louis was made by tc. Thats a good reason and a good example why not to move it. Moving it to CA wouldn't be cost effective just a vacation for all of you eastern people. Maybe some of you will be able to see a beach some day! But I digress if it ever comes to CA I'll be friggin happy but if it doesn't oh well just make sure it stays out of Alaska! Vincent This Time!
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I think, leave it in St. Louis... I don't want to keep attending a traveling circus! -Tyler
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I'll put my vote in for Michigan. The metro Detroit area has dozens of convention centers that would be great for TW. Plus, with the way the economy has been in MI, I am sure there would be great deals on the convention center as well as lodging. There is also a ton of reasonable entertainment including 3 great casinos. While here take in a Red Wing Game. Windsor is only a few minutes away as well. And the last I checked, Michigan is still the haunted house capital of the world. Plus we border Ohio which also has a huge amount of haunts. Hauntcon went over very well when it was hosted here a couple years ago. There are several haunts that I am sure would be glad to get involved in the haunt tours including Realm of Darkness which is a very detailed haunt, Erebus which has the Guinness record for largest walk through haunted attraction and of course Deadly Intentions which has been rated as one of the scariest haunted houses around since 2003.
Say yes to Michigan.
Howie "Slobber" Erlich
Owner
Deadly Intentions Haunted House
www.deadlyintentionshaunt.com
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Originally posted by Infoamtek View PostAdam, Why so........serious?
Just a joke.
We already have the SD Comic-Con here and it makes TransWorld look tiny.
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Mount Carroll is perfect!
3 hrs from O'Hare and the accommodations are dirt cheap! Both hotels are abandoned, just for the price of a crowbar everybody gets a room!
The one Motel has a nick-name, "Deadman's Motel" after a guy paid his month's rent in advance, went to his room, died , and a month later they found him! Good thing the AC had kept running that summer.
The other Motel is 4 stories , built to be a men's dorm for Shimer college (moved away) and after the men moved in became known as "The Animal Farm"and it is strangely decorated by the late Don quinn who maybe invented the theme room in Dodgeville Wis. at his "Don Q Inn".
Last I knew the rooms in his local creation used big, deep, copper cheese vats for bathtubs so pharting in the tub would be expected, "Who cut the cheese?"
And of course the international shrine to Mr. Tuxedo known as The Ravens Grin Inn!
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Come on guys, your missing the perfect place..
++++ Hawaii ++++
A week in Hawaii and wright it off
on your tax's as a business trip.
Works for me .... HaHaHa
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You know Adam, if side trips are such a distraction, maybe we should have that Darkness tour cancelled so the attendees aren't distracted from the trade show.
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Just kidding. We can have it in Alaska if everyone wants. LOL. Just excited to be back on the boards and wanted to stir up trouble immediately!!!!!
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