Okay couple things I wanted to mention. I have been super busy working on these new escape rooms for the tour plus our improvements to The Darkness. With the completion of The Darkness que line I can't see any other major improvements I will take on in 2018. The only thing I can see doing honestly is ripping out Terror Visions and starting over there. The que line was a major issue and now that has been solved. The new que line is going to be incredible... plus we're adding new scenes inside the haunt. You will start to see all the pictures of those scenes once we get past all these escape room installs we've been doing all over the country.
My entire crew will be on the haunt starting this coming Monday. But I've totally built out the entire new building and old building and without going into the downstairs what is left to do on a MAJOR LEVEL. Based on that fact and because it takes so much money and time to produce these upgrades next year we will not be doing any darkness behind the scenes tours, or escape room tours, blah, blah.
Here are a couple other reasons I don't want to do it anymore...
1) I want to start opening different times of the year like Christmas, or Valentines Day or whatever. Can't when the whole place it torn to shreds.
2) These tours cost way more than they take in and it keeps you working non-stop like a dog from Halloween to April.
3) Tired of spending more money on the darkness than warrants for my local market... only doing it because industry people touring.
4) Planning on moving the darkness 110%.
5) I'd rather invest my money into opening a haunt/escapes in another city like Indy.
6) Lastly I want to do other things like go to this show, that show, go on a trip when my kids are out of school for Christmas, or anything of the nature I can't do it when I'm so tied to this place its unreal. Also we could focus more time working for other clients.
What I'm going to do hold on let me make sure I'm getting this right... what I'm going to do is finally OPEN CREEPYWORLD. Creepyworld is BETTER THAN THE DARKNESS WAY BETTER I've said it 100 times because its true. The problem with Creepyworld is I will have to take it down after Halloween then put it back up for you guys, then take it down again then put it back up again for my season.
I was talking with Ben Armstrong last night and he's like why not leave it up... well you can't because it will get snowed on, rained on, and people could come and steal stuff.
I can't do that.
Here is why I wanted to wait to tour Creepyworld...
1) I want to build our next new haunted house and improve the hayride to a level where I"m really happy with it. That will be 2017.
2) That would only leave ONE haunt that I haven't rebuilt over the last few years and its the biggest one there... the old SiloX. I will rebuild that directly after we close for the Halloween season next year. I will make it into probably the best one we'll have... so that will be the last time I spend tons of money on these tours. It will be ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE however to make Creepyworld like it should be for the haunt season because for example I can't get corn stalks. That is one example. Another is I can't put up the tent and all the que line stuff... I can't do that either. But for the most part I can get a lot of up and running.
SO HERE IS MY QUESTIONS:
1) Would you want a behind the scenes tour of Creepyworld?
2) Would you care if it was operated with or without actors or if it was short actors. On our busiest nights it takes over 100 actors to run it... not sure if I can come up with that many in March.
3) The cost is going to be a big issue... I would probably have to charge $100.00 per person just to cover the cost to set it up, take it down, set it up and take it down again. I will have to put things away after Halloween, then right before the tour unload and install again... then after the tour put everything again yet again only to get it all back out again late summer. The cost to me is going to be astronomical.
I'll do it ONCE but would people have an issue paying $100 per person?
4) Does this sound good to you... Behind the Scenes tour just one on Thursday, Open Darkness with Actors on Friday, then finally Creepyworld on Saturday.
I won't open Creepyworld twice and go thru that nightmare so your feedback is welcome!
Larry
My entire crew will be on the haunt starting this coming Monday. But I've totally built out the entire new building and old building and without going into the downstairs what is left to do on a MAJOR LEVEL. Based on that fact and because it takes so much money and time to produce these upgrades next year we will not be doing any darkness behind the scenes tours, or escape room tours, blah, blah.
Here are a couple other reasons I don't want to do it anymore...
1) I want to start opening different times of the year like Christmas, or Valentines Day or whatever. Can't when the whole place it torn to shreds.
2) These tours cost way more than they take in and it keeps you working non-stop like a dog from Halloween to April.
3) Tired of spending more money on the darkness than warrants for my local market... only doing it because industry people touring.
4) Planning on moving the darkness 110%.
5) I'd rather invest my money into opening a haunt/escapes in another city like Indy.
6) Lastly I want to do other things like go to this show, that show, go on a trip when my kids are out of school for Christmas, or anything of the nature I can't do it when I'm so tied to this place its unreal. Also we could focus more time working for other clients.
What I'm going to do hold on let me make sure I'm getting this right... what I'm going to do is finally OPEN CREEPYWORLD. Creepyworld is BETTER THAN THE DARKNESS WAY BETTER I've said it 100 times because its true. The problem with Creepyworld is I will have to take it down after Halloween then put it back up for you guys, then take it down again then put it back up again for my season.
I was talking with Ben Armstrong last night and he's like why not leave it up... well you can't because it will get snowed on, rained on, and people could come and steal stuff.
I can't do that.
Here is why I wanted to wait to tour Creepyworld...
1) I want to build our next new haunted house and improve the hayride to a level where I"m really happy with it. That will be 2017.
2) That would only leave ONE haunt that I haven't rebuilt over the last few years and its the biggest one there... the old SiloX. I will rebuild that directly after we close for the Halloween season next year. I will make it into probably the best one we'll have... so that will be the last time I spend tons of money on these tours. It will be ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE however to make Creepyworld like it should be for the haunt season because for example I can't get corn stalks. That is one example. Another is I can't put up the tent and all the que line stuff... I can't do that either. But for the most part I can get a lot of up and running.
SO HERE IS MY QUESTIONS:
1) Would you want a behind the scenes tour of Creepyworld?
2) Would you care if it was operated with or without actors or if it was short actors. On our busiest nights it takes over 100 actors to run it... not sure if I can come up with that many in March.
3) The cost is going to be a big issue... I would probably have to charge $100.00 per person just to cover the cost to set it up, take it down, set it up and take it down again. I will have to put things away after Halloween, then right before the tour unload and install again... then after the tour put everything again yet again only to get it all back out again late summer. The cost to me is going to be astronomical.
I'll do it ONCE but would people have an issue paying $100 per person?
4) Does this sound good to you... Behind the Scenes tour just one on Thursday, Open Darkness with Actors on Friday, then finally Creepyworld on Saturday.
I won't open Creepyworld twice and go thru that nightmare so your feedback is welcome!
Larry
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