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  • #16
    audio sources

    depending on budgets and control requirements there are tons of options for audio sources. I have used, piles of small MP3 players purchased for a few dollars each all the way to the extreme of a PC based multi ch. output device. There are devices that allow up to 128 ch. out from a single PC and they are a couple of thousand but again if your looking at a large PRO-haunt that is well worth the flexibility it gives you. Most "mixing-boards" that a DJ might use for example usually do the opposite of what a haunter wants. We want a bunch of independently controllable ch. that get sent all over the show. Those mixing boards take a bunch of inputs and mix them down to 2 ch. that is moving in the wrong direction. The sticky part of this question is that there are very few industries who share similar audio needs with the haunt industry so equipment is pricey. However as I mentioned in a previous post, if you start with the distribution, and play from cheap-o mp3 players, then next year buy a PC and a 48ch. output blade you come in at under $10k and now have all the control, flexibility, and reliability that Disney has in it's parks. Proper planning can allow you to move your show in the right direction slowly and steadily if that is what you wish. I have designed and installed said systems and have always had very happy clients.

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    • #17
      Well I plan on doing computer control if its possible.... So what programs offer the most flexibility? =)

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      • #18
        BUMP =)

        Hoping Ethereal can answer this one =)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by poison View Post
          Powered Speakers for props.
          And Non-Powered for Ambient tracks.


          OR...... FOR OUTDOOR or INDOOR....

          300 Watt Indoor / Outdoor Black Speakers | Theater Solutions TS425ODB300 Watt Indoor / Outdoor Black Speaker pair fits any indoor or outdoor environment brilliantly.

          New Black Weather Resistant Indoor/Outdoor Speaker Pair
          150 Watts RMS per pair & 300 Watts Max per pair
          Sensitivity is 90db with 80-20,000 Hz Frequency Response
          $74.99
          Retail: $499.99
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          I was wondering... How are these powered? By another amp or from a prop controller?

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          • #20
            These 300 Watt speakers need an amp.
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            • #21
              If you are looking to hear a speaker with a little more bass. This has a 5.25 inch 8 ohm rubber surround woofer.
              Consider these...
              http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-9...2ts525odb.aspx
              $94.99

              2 pair pack Outdoor Black Omni-directional Speakers | 2TS525ODB.
              200 Watts RMS per pair & 400 Watts Max per pair.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by poison View Post
                If you are looking to hear a speaker with a little more bass. This has a 5.25 inch 8 ohm rubber surround woofer.
                Consider these...
                http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-9...2ts525odb.aspx
                $94.99

                2 pair pack Outdoor Black Omni-directional Speakers | 2TS525ODB.
                200 Watts RMS per pair & 400 Watts Max per pair.
                Thank you so much. I've been looking for two speaker needs. One for the FireFly Lightning for the front of the house and a great speaker for props. Seems like this one would be great for the props

                Do you think that this speaker recommendation would also be good for the FireFly lightning? I was using a guitar amp. Had large sound but was flat at times and wasn't that convincing.

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                • #23
                  I would not use those speakers for Thunder.
                  You need something big for that.

                  Those speakers for $94.99 i suggested would be great for ambient sound tracks.

                  This will work fine for props it has a built in amp (powered speakers).

                  http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-2...ons-ts211.aspx TS21
                  $49.99

                  This would work GREAT for thunder. They are powered speakers.
                  http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...1003aset1.aspx
                  $354.99

                  If you already have an amp for your thunder then these speakers would kick some but!
                  http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...15101set1.aspx
                  $212.99 each

                  I should be start working for this company! I can't believe how i keep throwing them bones : )
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by poison View Post
                    I would not use those speakers for Thunder.
                    You need something big for that.

                    Those speakers for $94.99 i suggested would be great for ambient sound tracks.

                    This will work fine for props it has a built in amp (powered speakers).

                    http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-2...ons-ts211.aspx TS21
                    $49.99

                    This would work GREAT for thunder. They are powered speakers.
                    http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...1003aset1.aspx
                    $354.99

                    If you already have an amp for your thunder then these speakers would kick some but!
                    http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...15101set1.aspx
                    $212.99 each

                    I should be start working for this company! I can't believe how i keep throwing them bones : )
                    Thanks so much!!!! You're awesome

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                    • #25
                      For those comparing notes I've used TIC 120 speakers and really like the sound/base quality for their compact size. They can be found for around $100 per pair.

                      I also have some Yamaha NS-AW350's on the way that I'll let you know about. They were about $80 per pair. btw, the reviews said the 350's had better base than the 390's.

                      I'm going to try those from Only Factory Direct and compare- $94 for 2 pair seems like a hell of a deal. Thanks for the tip.

                      www.parts-express.com has some really neat goodies as well. I'm eyeing their transducers...
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                      • #26
                        Since the topic is budet minded audio. I'm eyeing these amps for background audio sources and was wondering if anyone has experience with these?

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/GLI-PRO-XPA-7-4-...29530612446275

                        They are an amp AND mp3 player combined- using either USB or memory stick, and come in a variety of power levels. They are also lockable. Just wondering if they are junk.
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                        • #27
                          So here's what I have to say about the above mentioned speakers after trying them out personally.
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                          I tried TIC 120 speakers with 6.5" woofers, Yamaha ns-aw350 with 6.5" woofers and the Parts Express 2-pair speaker deal with 4" woofers. My review is based on a comparison to a typical larger non-powered speaker: MTX TP 1200, which is a 12" woofer. These guys, while not high end put out great sound and bass for the money- usually around $110 each. You're going to struggle getting a perfect thunder crack out of them, but otherwise are great and last a long time.

                          First, for the money its hard to not go with the parts express deal. They sound ok and for their intended use (which is not bass reproduction) they will work just fine. Bottom line is that they have very little bass, even compared to the other two with slightly bigger woofers.

                          Second, over all I'd have to say for a little extra money (compared to the Yamaha) the TIC sound a lot better. Still relatively no bass, but not completely lacking. I think the upper end is a little brighter than the Yamaha and the Parts Express too.

                          Which leaves the Yamaha. It comes a close second to the TIC and for the money maybe its a better deal. But I choose TIC as a speaker for areas that may need some bass.

                          Anyway, I say: Parts express for background with little to no bass requirements- cheap! And the TIC or Yamaha for other moderately heavy sound situations.

                          If money and size were no problem I'd say go with MTX 1200's and you would rock the house!
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                          • #28
                            I was looking hard at the thunder speaker suggestions. I don't have an amp so the powered speakers seem to be the way to go for me.

                            But two things are stopping me from buying them. Price and perhaps they could be too loud for my needs. I'm just a home haunt so I do want really good thunder sound but I may never crank up those awesome speakers you suggested so it could be a waste of money. Plus, the sound is mono coming out of the FireFly box so I was thinking of going with just one speaker to save a bit of money.

                            With that in mind, how about this single 10" speaker? http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...002a1set1.aspx Would it give me crisp boomy thunder for a yard haunt or should I look at something bigger, 12": http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-4...202a1set1.aspx or even 15"?: http://www.onlyfactorydirect.com/p-5...503a1set1.aspx

                            Thanks again

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                            • #29
                              I think you could get away with the 10" powered speakers as long as you get 2 and separate them for a good stereo feel.
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