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[Rachel]

Kevin - I was wearing a pleated plaid skirt and a black leather halter top - but I did speak with you. I have a strange urge to wear hats when I'm drunk (I should carry an emergency drunk hat with me at all times) so I wanted to wear your pink hat. But you said no Something about it would mess up your hair.....;-)

Lurker - thanks. Next actors meeting can be at my house - the activity can be pole dancing and afterwards we can drink, cuss and be cool (inside joke).

[lurker]

Rachel,
You are no trouble. You're a great asset, and if exotic dancing helps acting ability, even in the slightest of ways, please feel free to teach all the 18+ girls how to spin around that pole.

[Greg Chrise]

There is kind of an Oxy Moron going on here....discussions of morality and boundries and perceptions evolving around Myspace?

[Kevin Dells]

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Interesting topic and i find it funny because just as Racheal said when i tell people i build haunts for a hobby they give me that dog just died look.

Sadist,barbarrac, evil all come to mind as i look at their blank resonse.

I could definetly see how pole dancing or any dancing for that fact could help do a couple of things. As stated it most definetly build confidence and charisma, make a person more theatrical through grace of body language.

Ever been to a seminar where the person speaking has no clue how to speak, just boring dribble. No personality, maybe just reading note cards to an audience?
How about a really great seminar where the speaker is energetic, looks right and left and address's the whole crowd, throws in a joke every now and then to lighten the mood, this guy has confidence he can talk to 10,000 people and not break a sweat.

Its all confidence,knowing your bigger than them, and how you portray yourelf to them. Done correctly you get the scare!

For the record, Racheal Friday night i believe you had a black skirt on with a tan halter top and looked Marvelous!!!! You had so much charisma going you made me to nervous to walk up and introduce myself

Stay on the pole,Its Working! :shock:

[Rachel]

Cats, martinis, and a pole - sounds like my house. My cats don't tip me while I dance though - they trip me. Big difference.

Louis (lurker), you have an inside track - but I can think of one haunted house we probably shouldn't visit on the rare occasion we are closed :shock: I hope I'm worth all the trouble I cause....:-)

BTW he didn't plug the haunted house's myspace page (no references to pole dancing) :

www.myspace.com/darkwoodmanor

[Gore Galore]

Headache

ouch,
I have a headache.
Live and let live.
Jim,
Please just keep your clothes on when pole dancing.

But, uh, thanks for the visual.

[xxxdirk]

Imagine walking into one of Jims rooms and there he is dancing around his pole like you do Rachel as Mr Tux sits on a chair watching, sipping a milk martini. Holding a $5 bill

[MDKing]

Fanning the flames.... :twisted:

[lurker]

Come on! PMs are no fair! It was just getting interesting. :twisted:

[MDKing]

Well said Barry. I hope that folks can find something tactful from all the mess. The problem though with such threads is that sometimes people come off a little differently than they usually are. Ragardless of this I think it's important for anyone to voice their opinions and thoughts. I have an opinion on the subject matter and expressed it, but the last thing I want to do is hurt someone's feelings and I hope through our PM's this is understood.

[Rachel]

LOL!

I forgot that Jim pole dances in his haunt! Jim! That's terrible - corrupting your patrons like that! I can just see you flipping upside down on the pole and spinning down it....weeee!

[Barry]

Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn very quickly. A couple of points I would like to make:

1. I think any haunt actor pulls from a variety of sources to make themselves better. For Ron it is magic, for Rachel it is dancing. Whatever it is, if it makes you better then go for it.

2. Allen, I too used to lump all exotic dancers into the the same category as you have. Rachel has taught me that this is not the case. The Tango can be very "exotic" and suggestive but it is used in dance competitions. Heck, if we go back far enough we were told to keep a certain distance between ourselves at a school dance so we weren't being to suggestive.

3. There is a moral line with everything, it is simply a matter of where you choose to place it. If there is one thing that my relatively short time in the haunt industry has taught me, it is to not make moral judgements to quickly. I have met some people who look/act/dress in ways that I would never consider myself, but I found these people to be absolutely wonderful human beings with viewpoints and morals similar to my own. For those that differ too much, I respect them for being in our industry and wish them well. That is all I can do.

Either way, this thread has been a good read and very thought provoking. Personally, I think we need more converstations like these.

Barry

[xxxdirk]

JW wrote:

I do a pole dance for almost every tour that I put through my house. None of the customers get to see it though since it happens in a very small , dark space, I slide around the pole and I'm suddenly on the first floor!?
I began on the second floor.
Then I am ahead of the tour, waiting to scare them again.

EWW Bad visual image as I was watching that girl. All I could picture of Jim Warfield doing those moves. God, better go kiss the wife quick to get that image out of my mind!

[Rachel]

Thanks, and for the record I don't drink either :P

Allan

Well, I guess I need to work on being as perfect as you....maybe we all do.

[MDKing]

I watched your video...strong girl!

Thanks, and for the record I don't drink either :P

Let's keep this on PM from here on out if it must go on. Let's get back to talking shop here!

Allan